The NEXT TERRORIST ATTACK AN ABSOLUTE MUST READ FOR EVERY AMERICAN!

[haggis12]

Originally Posted by sharron

Haggis12, I just have to say, and I am trying to not let my lips move so that it becomes a smile, then a giggle and then an all out high pitched "laugh" but did you know that a blond is a blond wether the blond is MALE or FE(MALE). they both seem to give out the same unmistakable dum blond anwsers.
Please forgive

No forgiveness, neccessary. Good for you.

[farhi]

the taking of life is never good but if you look at the countries that have been attacked they all have something in common, as for england they had it coming from time beggon, they are < not the usa > the most hated country in the world for lots of different reasons, first they are the ones why the brotherhood was formed in egypt< now alqueda> they are the ones why
isreal will never live in peace, as for the usa israel is the reason, whether we like it yes are no but taking sides in a unjust situation is not the right thing to do allied yes are no the middle east wanted to be left alone but no the west had to go there and meddle, different people different believe and they dont need to be given anything different, yes as i said it is wrong to kill people but how much of us would take our families been bombed over land that belongs to us, to live in a land that is like an open air prison? not alot rightn ,the usa was told thanks for helping to get the russians out of afgan then they were told we would deal with saddam and as i can remember the usa was warned < stay the hell out this is our land, the same thing the palestians told the terror groups < we will deal with out own stuff> but now for the most part they dont even give a sh-t about alqueda now, guys all i am saying if we had just leave well alone we would have been living in peace like so many other countries in the world, rich or poor

[Elche420]

I agree with the point that was made about terrorism affecting humanity, however that was not my point. I am simply saying that when reffering to united states, Please say united states dont say America. Like sharron said anyone who lives in north and south america, is an American.

Again, I agree and share the same point of view on this sensitive subject, my comment is strictly directed to the America = United States. and that is incorrect. America = Our continent. This comment has nothing to do with terrorist acts, im just simp[ly saying America is not the united States.


Once again for all thosse not understanding me.... All I am saying is Do not reffer to the U.S as America. It is a big miscomsepting lie to do so is ignorant,.


Thank you Sharon for understanding my point.

[cheffy]

My opinion. NO MATTER where a person lives in the world,They All put pants on 1 leg at a time, shirts, 1 arm at a time. Everyone smiles when happy, weeps when sad.WE are ALL human The united states alone is NOT america. Canada alone is not america. The WHOLE continent is AMERICA.
cheffy

[sharron]

You are so absolutly correct cheffy, I just wish that all could acept the truth and understand the facts, and become friends with each other.

[luispa]

Amen to that Sharron. For those who are anti-Americans may i present to you a site which is calling your name.... expatriot dot com.

The US of A may be being attacked by Al-Questionable or whatever group it may be but that doesn't mean that the southern part of our hemisphere isn't without terrorism in its self. Terrorism comes in many forms from dictatorship to censorship.

What we need to concern ourselves with is not petty thoughts about our President or the fear of your country being linked to U.S policy but on who is actually drafting and implementing our/your laws and which lobbying firm will be the next to bribe our/your congressmen for the sake of coinage.

Sorry Sharron i just couldn't hold my tongue. Its very slippery.

[sharron]

You luispa, have a very, very good post and one that should really bring ALL of the North/ South American citizens to one place, and that is TOGETHER, not apart. Greed and knowing how to split people of these great continent's has taken away our eyesite from were it should truely be focused on, and thats the greater good for ALL, not just a few with greed in there hearts, or looking to themselves first and forgeting the rest

ALL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR ALL thats what America, both North and South should be!!!!
No sorry needed,

[farhi]

Originally Posted by luispa

Amen to that Sharron. For those who are anti-Americans may i present to you a site which is calling your name.... expatriot dot com.

The US of A may be being attacked by Al-Questionable or whatever group it may be but that doesn't mean that the southern part of our hemisphere isn't without terrorism in its self. Terrorism comes in many forms from dictatorship to censorship.

What we need to concern ourselves with is not petty thoughts about our President or the fear of your country being linked to U.S policy but on who is actually drafting and implementing our/your laws and which lobbying firm will be the next to bribe our/your congressmen for the sake of coinage.

Sorry Sharron i just couldn't hold my tongue. Its very slippery.

and thats the truth and nothing but the truth, they will lobby for a mcdonald in bagdad if they could dont matter how much life it is going to cost andfthe stupid ass politicians will just roll over yep

[Caballero]

The following is a copy of an article written by Spanish writer Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez and published in a Spanish newspaper on Jan. 15 2008. It doesn't take much imagination to extrapolate the message to the rest of Europe - and possibly to the rest of the world.


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REMEMBER AS YOU READ -- IT WAS IN A SPANISH PAPER
Date: Tue, 15 January 2008 14:30:20 -0500


ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ
By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez

I walked down the street in Barcelona , and suddenly discovered a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz .. We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.

The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned.

And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.

They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.

Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.

And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition.

We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.

What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe .

[Caballero]

I hope nobody thinks that I'm out of line here, but this is an absolute truth and fits quite well into this thread.

A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.
Absolutely No Profiling! Pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test.
These events are actual events from history.. They really happened! Do you remember?


HERE'S THE TEST

1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:
a. Superman
b. Jay Leno
c. Harry Potter
d. A Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by :
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d . Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davey Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers.
Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

14. And now Ft. Hood, Texas.

No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people.. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling.

[sharron]

I'm just wondering what everyones reaction is to the trials of the 9/11 Guantanamo Bay detainees in NYC.? Many have said that it will bring more attacks to NYC, and yet others say that it will give closure to a lot of the relatives, friends, children of the people that were lost at this time?

[crispycreeter]

I think that we should be trying these detainees in a military court, not on parade in nyc... they want all the media attention they can get, and I don't think we should give them any. Remember 9/11 was considered an act of war against the people of the united states of america, so it should be handled by a military court

[haggis12]

I can understand what you are saying about Muslims, being involved in a lot of things, that I can, but, on the other hand, we have been involved in a lot of things ourselves, like farhi, said, in his post, we did not ask ou to come in here, our family gets killed, and you wonder why we get Pd off, and retaliate, it is something to consider, as I am sure, we would do, and feel, the exact same thing. Myself, I feel things are getting a wee bit racial, just my opinion, and I do not mind being called a Dumb Scotsman. ok? The person , who is quite well known, on this site, called me that too, but I learned, I think??
CORRECT, P., /?
Getting close to Christmas, PEACE to ALL, I HOPE//

[Caballero]

Not trying to start any race riot, but simply stating something here that I've come across as being fact. It's a rather interesting item. And it's not a rumor. Checked it out on Snopes.


Very interesting the University is standing by their professor and not bowing down to special interest groups!

hxxp://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/wichman....asp

Professor Wichman E-mail Claim: A Michigan professor sent an e-mail telling Muslim students to leave the country.

Status: True.

> The story begins at Michigan State University with a
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> mechanical engineering professor named Indred Wichman.

> Wichman sent an e-mail to
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> the Muslim Student's Association.
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> The e-mail was in response to the students' protest
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> of the Danish cartoons that portrayed
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> the Prophet Muhammad as a terrorist.
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> The group had complained the cartoons
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> were 'hate speech'
>
> ============
>
> Enter Professor Wichman.
>
> ==========================================
>
> In his e-mail, he said the following:
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> ===============================
>
>
>
> Dear Muslim Association,
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> As a professor of Mechanical Engineering
>
> here at MSU I intend to protest your protest.
>
> I am offended not by cartoons, but by more mundane things
>
> like beheadings of civilians, cowardly attacks on public buildings,
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> suicide murders, murders of Catholic priests
>
> (the latest in Turkey),
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> burnings of Christian churches, the continued persecution
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> of Coptic Christians in Egypt, the imposition of Sharia law
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> on non-Muslims, the rapes of Scandinavian girls and women
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> (called 'whores' in your culture),
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> the murder of film directors in Holland,
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> and the rioting and looting in Paris France.
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>
>
> This is what offends me, a soft-spoken person and academic,
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> and many, many of my colleagues..
>
> I counsel you dissatisfied, aggressive, brutal,
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> and uncivilized slave-trading Muslims to be very aware
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> of this as you proceed with your infantile 'protests.'
>
>
>
> If you do not like the values of the West
>
> - see the 1st Amendment -
>
> you are free to leave.
>
>
>
> I hope for God's sake that
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> most of you choose that option.
>
> Please return to your ancestral homelands
>
> and build them up yourselves
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> instead of troubling Americans.
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> Cordially,
>
>
>
> I. S. Wichman
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> Professor of
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> Mechanical Engineering
>
> =============================
>
> As you can imagine,
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> the Muslim group at the university
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> didn't like this too well.
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> They're demanding that Wichman be reprimanded
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> and the university impose mandatory
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> diversity training for faculty.
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> And mandate a seminar on hate
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> and discrimination for all freshmen..
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>
>
> Now the local chapter of CAIR has jumped into the fray .
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> CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations,
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> apparently doesn't believe that the good professor
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> had the right to ******* his opinion.
>
> ==========
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> For its part, the university is standing its ground
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> in support of Professor Wichman,
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> saying the e-mail was private,
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> and they don't intend to publicly
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> condemn his remarks.
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> ================================================== =========
> We are in a war.
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> This political correctness crap
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> is getting old and killing us.
>
>
> YEAH
>
> MICHIGAN STATE </html

[islawrence]

im sure that everyone can remember it all including slavery -a bombs - rowanda - darfor how about remembering how to just get along , the entire world has gone to hell and we are all buying into big goverment and buisness b/s
why cant there be a little less greed and some empithy for others in the entire world instead of just our own little country where ever that may be

[islawrence]

Im sure it would go a long way if religion of all types were taken a little less serious
I dont think one has to be of any paticular faith to be a decent human with feeling for the suffering of others
just my 2 cents

[Caballero]

The irony of the situation is that our boys are over there fighting to obtain a free and democratic society for them while they come over here and encroach on our liberties by trying to force their customs on us. I don't think that pointing this little matter out makes anybody a racist. If anything, we are gradually becoming the target of racism. If we attempt to enforce our rules we are labeled racists. But others can make cultural demands that we must abide by?

Well I've got news for you. I don't care where you are from. This is MY house. Do not try to tell me how to arrange my furniture in it. Do not tell me what furniture to buy. If you want into my house, show me some respect and take your shoes off at the entrance. Don't muddy up my floor. (That's exactly what you demand of me when I visit your home). You'll be welcome to dinner and if you wish to say grace, that's fine with me; but do it quietly and keep it to yourself. Do not try to impose it on me. I just may be an agnostic or atheist. Keep your customs; but keep them to yourself and do not try to impose them on those who reside here. THIS IS THE WAY WE LIVE! ADAPT TO IT OR LEAVE!!!

[haggis12]

I can go with what you are saying there,Caballero, so true.

[sharron]

What really bothers me about this being sent to the NYC Justic system,is that it makes me wonder who this is aimed at. The relatives or serviors of the people that lost their lives, or at all the countries that lost people. It was not just US people that where murdered at this time, there where people from almost every country in the world that died that day. That is the reason that the twin towers were hit, it was a warning to the world, by a group of people that have been raised to believe that their way of life is the only way.
What i would like to see happen, if this is turned into the NYC Justic for trial, i would like to see every last thing connected to these people, put on public dicplay, right down to the evidence that is rejected by the judge, and the law that states that this can be rejected, and why, as well as the lawyers wording and reasons as well as the laws that they are useing. I would also like to have made public, everything to do with any cases that the Judge has ruled over. And just for good measure, I want to know every last thing, that this Judge has done within the last three or so years, mainly who he has been in contact with, why, for what reason. As well as all bank statements. Me I want to know why these people should beable to come back and destroy the relatives and friends of those that so needlessly died or have no quality of life because of these very people. I also would like to know why, just why????? and who put this in place??????

[farhi]

Originally Posted by Caballero

Well I've got news for you. I don't care where you are from. This is MY house. Do not try to tell me how to arrange my furniture in it. Do not tell me what furniture to buy. If you want into my house, show me some respect and take your shoes off at the entrance. Don't muddy up my floor. (That's exactly what you demand of me when I visit your home). You'll be welcome to dinner and if you wish to say grace, that's fine with me; but do it quietly and keep it to yourself. Do not try to impose it on me. I just may be an agnostic or atheist. Keep your customs; but keep them to yourself and do not try to impose them on those who reside here. THIS IS THE WAY WE LIVE! ADAPT TO IT OR LEAVE!!!

you are right my friends i agree with you 100%, now if we could just do that ourselves, we are over there handing out american flags to kids little balls with the american colors now thats bullshit, like you say here is what we do so when you are here dont impose your shit on us, christians alike are full of shit they dont mind if its the only religion in the world so are muslems and they are also full of shit too, none of us as anything writen in stone by god so what you learn is what you teach but that doesnt say it is the right way, so many religion out there what makes anyone of them think that they are the true and should be the only way fukc that, god is god not jewish are muslem are christian, he is god, religion is crap and someone in a post mention the jews, they knew what they did and they still doing it today but may the good lord help them, selfish set of bitches, if they could stop promoting war in africa just so they can get the diamonds, africa would be ok, there are no diamond mines in israel ok