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Old 08-03-2009, 08:43 PM
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HB1388 passed

Interesting reading ??

from the federal register 2009-02-04-E9-2488


HB 1388 PASSED

Whether you are an Obama fan, or not, EVERYONE IN THE U. S. needs to
know....

Something happened... H.R. 1388 was passed yesterday, behind our
backs. You may want to read about it.. It wasn't mentioned on the
news... just went by on the ticker tape at the bottom of the CNN
screen.

Obama funds $20M in tax payer dollars to immigrate Hamas Refugees to
the USA . This is the news that didn't make the headlines...

By executive order, President Barack Obama has ordered the expenditure
of $20.3 million in "migration assistance" to the Palestinian refugees
and "conflict victims" in Gaza .

The "presidential determination", which allows hundreds of thousands
of Palestinians with ties to Hamas to resettle in the United States ,
was signed on January 27 and appeared in the Federal Register on
February 4.

Few on Capitol Hill, or in the media, took note that the order
provides a free ticket replete with housing and food allowances to
individuals who have displayed their overwhelming support to the
Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) in the parliamentary election of
January 2006.

Let ' s review....itemized list of some of Barack Obama ' s most recent
actions since his inauguration:

20 His first call to any head of state, as president, was to Mahmoud
Abbas, leader of Fatah party in the Palestinian territory.

His first one-on-one television interview with any news organization
was with Al Arabia television.

His first executive order was to fund/facilitate abortion(s) not just
here within the U. S. , but within the world, using U. S. tax payer
funds.

He ordered Guantanamo Bay closed and all military trials of detainees
halted.

He ordered overseas CIA interrogation centers closed.

He withdrew all charges against the masterminds behind the USS Cole
and the "terror attack" on 9/11.

Now we learn that he is allowing hundreds of thousands of Palestinian
refuges to move to, and live in, the US at American taxpayer expense.

These important, and insightful, issues are being "lost" in the
blinding bail-outs and "stimulation" packages.

WE are losing this country at a rapid pace.


This all comes from the federal register web site and was sent to me by a friend.
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Re: HB1388 passed

I can believe it. There has been a lot of news lately about senators, congressmen, etc passing bills that are 1000 + pages long and claiming they did it without having the time to read it. Personally, if I went to the bank to get a loan, there is no way I would sign the paperwork without reading every single page of it. One of the first things we learn when becoming an adult is read the fine print. There is not a court in the country that will find in your favor because you didn't read everything. Why are we electing/re-electing these people into their positions when they openly admit they didn't read all of it? If I am paying public/government officials with my tax dollars, I expect you to do your damn job. You make more money than I do and I know I work harder to earn mine. Don't have some flunkie assistant to read it...DO IT YOURSELF.
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Re: HB1388 passed

how come when I google that bill, I come up with 15 different dates from 2008-2009 and alot of crazy crack pot web sites?

Is it me or is this section "serious talk" ?
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Took about 2 clicks and 10 seconds to find this ,,,,

Was H.R. 1388 passed "behind our backs"?

hXXp://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/was_hr_1388_passed_behind_our_backs.html

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Took about 2 clicks and 10 seconds to find this ,,,,

Was H.R. 1388 passed "behind our backs"?

hXXp://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/was_hr_1388_passed_behind_our_backs.html

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Exactly! You are 100% correct, and what it said was it was False!!

I kinda get sick and tired of people posting things with no real checking!

I would not call a C/P word for word wich is false in "serious talk" Im not sure if crap like that should be posted in a rumor section?!

I am a independent, and all my views are from trying to find the TRUTH, wich is very hard these days!!
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Yesterday when I read the opening post ,, it kinda got under my skin,,, today when i reread the thread ,,and saw the added comment ,, it made me dig a little deeper ,,not much,,but even then ,, I was wondering about who is telling the truth about what,,,lol,,,

Then i noticed a list of credits in the link i posted ,, did I check them out?,, No,,, I left that for the readers choice,,,,

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Re: HB1388 passed

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Exactly! You are 100% correct, and what it said was it was False!!

I kinda get sick and tired of people posting things with no real checking!

I would not call a C/P word for word wich is false in "serious talk" Im not sure if crap like that should be posted in a rumor section?!

I am a independent, and all my views are from trying to find the TRUTH, wich is very hard these days!!
I just posted something a friend sent me. In the post it says it can be checked at the federal register web site so no I didn't check it myself. There's no need for bashing me over something I thought people might find interesting.
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I just posted something a friend sent me. In the post it says it can be checked at the federal register web site so no I didn't check it myself. There's no need for bashing me over something I thought people might find interesting.
I don't really see this as "bashing".....more like voicing an opinion.....

Maybe posts like these will help people to learn to check and double check before posting.....

Nonetheless, this was an interesting read, and I bet it got alot of people thinking and doing research of their own. Thank you dan954.
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Re: HB1388 passed

Thats the 250,000 people I told you about a few weeks ago, as I remember it I got in a lot of trouble with some of the posters for that, and it is pure Hamas who have the gaza stip Thanks to Bush and the UN. They are the #1 terrorists in the world. They also funded Obama"s bid for the White House with over $33,000. They also said "we don't need to go from the outside to gain USA we will come from the inside" This was not allowed to be out on the news, but was published in the Arab and muslim news. Did you know that Obama has told them that Jerusalam is there's, and that there will be no more jews left there, Obama thinks and has said that the only reason that the jews got that land was because of the Holocast, and that now the jews were doing a Holocost to the Hamas. For me I would say that with the way thinks are that hamas was right, wouldn't you, and now I've gone and put my foot in it again, guess I'll go help my grandchildren load 20 horses in 4 of my son's trailers, that should get me out of the way of all the arrows aimed at me.!!!!!!
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Maybe I should start posting a bunch of heresay and see how far it goes.

I find it interesting that so many are willing to get sucked in to anything that is written against the government, because if it is bad, it has to be true. We want it to be true. No...we need it to be true in order to facilitate our own internal agendas.

It just serves to feed the frenzy of haters that have nothing else to do except bash before investigate.

I am not a big pro government guy...but some of the stuff that gets posted is really out there.

But that doesn't matter, because the poster will have achieved his goal. Most will not research it, and will take it all at face value.

No point in letting the facts get in the way of a good story.
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Re: HB1388 passed

This was something passed along in email, so it should be taken with a grain of salt.

Stuff going around in emails are good for jokes and that is where the facts die out.
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but thats true with newspapers as well, people take it as truth, nothing could be farther from it, more of what they print is BS, or twisted facts.


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Maybe I should start posting a bunch of heresay and see how far it goes.

I find it interesting that so many are willing to get sucked in to anything that is written against the government, because if it is bad, it has to be true. We want it to be true. No...we need it to be true in order to facilitate our own internal agendas.

It just serves to feed the frenzy of haters that have nothing else to do except bash before investigate.

I am not a big pro government guy...but some of the stuff that gets posted is really out there.

But that doesn't matter, because the poster will have achieved his goal. Most will not research it, and will take it all at face value.

No point in letting the facts get in the way of a good story.
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This was something passed along in email, so it should be taken with a grain of salt.

Stuff going around in emails are good for jokes and that is where the facts die out.
I'm not letting you off that easy.


Look at how the post started...

The Big Hoax as follows:

Quote:
Interesting reading ??

from the federal register 2009-02-04-E9-2488


HB 1388 PASSED

Whether you are an Obama fan, or not, EVERYONE IN THE U. S. needs to
know....

Something happened... H.R. 1388 was passed yesterday, behind our
backs. You may want to read about it.. It wasn't mentioned on the
news... just went by on the ticker tape at the bottom of the CNN
screen.

Obama funds $20M in tax payer dollars to immigrate Hamas Refugees to
the USA . This is the news that didn't make the headlines...

By executive order, President Barack Obama has ordered the expenditure
of $20.3 million in "migration assistance" to the Palestinian refugees
and "conflict victims" in Gaza .

The "presidential determination", which allows hundreds of thousands
of Palestinians with ties to Hamas to resettle in the United States ,
was signed on January 27 and appeared in the Federal Register on
February 4.

Few on Capitol Hill, or in the media, took note that the order
provides a free ticket replete with housing and food allowances to
individuals who have displayed their overwhelming support to the
Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) in the parliamentary election of
January 2006.
Somehow, I don't believe the first few sentences editorializing the 'so called facts' was in the federal register.

So now we go on to bring up several more so called 'factoids'


Quote:
Let ' s review....itemized list of some of Barack Obama ' s most recent
actions since his inauguration:

20 His first call to any head of state, as president, was to Mahmoud
Abbas, leader of Fatah party in the Palestinian territory.

His first one-on-one television interview with any news organization
was with Al Arabia television.

His first executive order was to fund/facilitate abortion(s) not just
here within the U. S. , but within the world, using U. S. tax payer
funds.

He ordered Guantanamo Bay closed and all military trials of detainees
halted.

He ordered overseas CIA interrogation centers closed.

He withdrew all charges against the masterminds behind the USS Cole
and the "terror attack" on 9/11.

Now we learn that he is allowing hundreds of thousands of Palestinian
refuges to move to, and live in, the US at American taxpayer expense.
And if all that wasn't enough, let's just embellish things a bit to see if we can hit it 'out of the park':


Quote:
These important, and insightful, issues are being "lost" in the
blinding bail-outs and "stimulation" packages.

WE are losing this country at a rapid pace.

See, I won't just pass this sort of thing off as just an errant second hand e-mail, to be discarded 'with a grain of salt'. Not as long as people react to it as if it were fact, as evidenced in this thread.

This stuff is bordering on slander, and could even be taken as hate propaganda.

Flame on.
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Re: HB1388 passed

I was getting ready to check it out, glad I read all the replys. Passed along in an e-mail, taken with a grain of salt. Call it what you want but that is exactly what is meant by hate mongering. If you can't find the bad, make it up. Same tactics were tried on Clinton. Sorry guys and gals, but that is pathetic.
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Who's Obama ?? (lol)
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I was getting ready to check it out, glad I read all the replys. Passed along in an e-mail, taken with a grain of salt. Call it what you want but that is exactly what is meant by hate mongering. If you can't find the bad, make it up. Same tactics were tried on Clinton. Sorry guys and gals, but that is pathetic.
And every other president regardless of party affiliation...
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You are exactly right Fred! The thought that has been running through my mind is that a large majority of the negative information flooding the media about Obama have a motivating factor and i think it is called racism! I didn't vote for him for other reasons but it blows my mind that i n his first year so many are bashing and expecting everything to automatically be fixed when it took George W. 8 years to F**k it up!It will take much longer to fix the problems than that! Give it some time and then if you don't like what has happened, vote for someone else!
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Well guys like I said I get sent alot of this stuff and in return I post it here thinking members would like to read it. I don't check none of it out because I thought it was coming from a good source. I guess I need to start double checking before posting.
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You are exactly right Fred! The thought that has been running through my mind is that a large majority of the negative information flooding the media about Obama have a motivating factor and i think it is called racism! I didn't vote for him for other reasons but it blows my mind that i n his first year so many are bashing and expecting everything to automatically be fixed when it took George W. 8 years to F**k it up!It will take much longer to fix the problems than that! Give it some time and then if you don't like what has happened, vote for someone else!
Very well said, and I believe a lot of it is racial. Why else would people be posting some of the craziness I've been reading so early in his term. Our problems aren't going to be fixed in a few months.
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Re: HB1388 passed

Hamas is a terrorist organization ? Says who ?
Please do your reading, see what is happening to the palestinians. Read what former President Jimmy Carter is doing for Human Rights. Its all a propaganda and very very dirty politics. Sad thing is we all believe when we read bogus post like this one and pass it along without doing our own research. This world is going down the drain and at the end of the day, we all will be responsible for it..........
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